Paweł Zajączkowski: S, BB, X, Y, Z, a - A Plethora of Generations in Tech

This talk addresses the generational conflicts within the tech industry, highlighting the unique characteristics, challenges, and contributions of different generations. The speaker, Pavo, shares insights on how generational differences arise from the social, cultural, and technological landscape that individuals grow up in. He categorizes generations from Silent Generation to Gen Z and discusses their preferences and workplace behaviors. The talk also explores the impact of these generational divides on team dynamics and organizational culture, emphasizing the importance of understanding and leveraging diversity in teams. Through humor and examples, Pavo illustrates how recognizing these differences can enhance collaboration and productivity in tech environments.

[Music] I have a confession to make I was born young enough to know how to use the terms cool dope and things like that but I wasn't quite old enough to enjoy the uh the Elegance that is the term wizard when something's Wizard and I have a feeling in about 20 years time that's going to come back around again and you're probably wondering what why is why

is Darren any of the day talking about this it's appropriate because our closing talk for the day is about the conflict between Generations in the tech industry we've already experienced this day in day out outside the tech industry your kid comes in they say a term you have no clue what they mean you might even be someone 50 60 still trying to get their heads around LOL

so Powell is at least here to try and help us get our heads around this issue specifically with in Tech po the stage is yours all right thank you very much hi everyone my name is Pavo I'm happy to have you here especially as this is the last slot of the conference today now probably you're everyone a little bit tired so appreciate that so just a brief

introduction of myself I used to do a lot of coding in Java but then I kind of switch to the dark site so now now I'm taking care of several teams of developers and develops at CIA Poland and today I will tell you about generations and conflict in Generations especially in our industry so this is our plan so first to be on the same pain I will

tell you a little bit about what those Generations actually mean what are those stuff about meths facts there those differences some theories about that then we will move to particular generations and focus on each of them and then the third part is sometimes called you know like a miscellania if you don't know how to call the last part of the presentation miscellania is usually a good idea

so disclaimer that's there's a lot of memes about Generations about Boomers and Millennials fighting each other you know so there will be a lot of memes in this presentation some of them may be offensive so please keep distance all right so let's start with we have a movie about how people born in different a short movie people born in different decades how they might react to hitting

themselves in an arm uh for the door so let's look at that there's no sound in here but it doesn't really matter yeah sometimes it looks a bit like this all right so our first acts the general idea of generations and what's what's in it about this this whole conflict so the the idea of generation this is quite an old topic if you see Millennials and Boomers

and stuff like this usually it refers to so-called Western World right the Western World the definition of Western world was also changing a little bit like you know history went a little bit differently in United States in Poland or Lithuania over last 70 years for instance when mostly those Generations were formed but in the end we are part of this Western World now happily so the idea

is that basically during the first 20 years of your life more or less all the events the cultural changes the technology that you are using the new technology that appear have the have high impact on your personality and we can because of that we can somehow segment the population in those more or less 20 years segments of different Generations that have something in common right sometimes it's

a bit shorter up to like 13 years sometimes it's a bit longer depends there are also different definitions so don't be very attached to exact years that I will be talking about right this idea is at least 100 years old there was some work by Carl Manheim who was working in Germany mostly uh you can see some of his Works around 1950s because that was the time

the time then it was translated to English right so here on those pictures you can see some examples of technology some examples of global events and also there's a boat there right so you might be wondering what's about this boat there so the boat should act like a shotgun hanged over chimney in a First Act of a play if you see the shotgun in the First Act

you know that in the third act we will be shooting from that shotgun right so in case of the boat we get into this boat in act three and we'll be rowing so bear with me all right so to be on the same page there the picture from Wikipedia by the way uh to to know which which generation is which we start with generation Alpha which is

basically children up to more or less 11 years old currently on the right side you have the current age range for those Generations then we have our gen Z which is luly 11 to 27 so entering the workforce we could say we have Millennials often called Gen X who are currently 27 to 43 more or less we have Gen X which is 43 and approaching 60 we

have baby boomers so the generation born just after the second world war they are roughly 60 to 70 something right and we have also silent generation probably we won't meet them at work or at least the CH chances are not that high so this geometry here when you look at particular generation they start in the left bottom so this is the year year of of birth and

we are going up to around 18 years old we have this so-called productive period like up to around 60 and then going down to roughly 70 and there should be like a long tail or hopefully we can still live after 60 or 70 when we are no longer that much productive right so this is more or less the breakdown of Our Generations how does it look in

real Society so we have example from Poland I was able to get data from actually five years ago each each of those those bars represent five years periods so what we can see here is on the left you have this peak the red peak of baby boomers right so people that are 60 60 something then we have a little bit less we have the demographic low so

we have the x's and then younger x's and older y's so Millennials are basically another Peak so those are those are children of baby boomers okay and we are still again going low we have gen Z we have Alpha and we would expect to have another another demographic high but you know times changed a little bit people are not having that many children currently in the Western

World so it kind of flattens out the end so how this translate to our industry okay here we have two examples those those bars are actually each one year each so the top example is a software house from Poland right what we can see here the vertical a is just a number of people that were Bor in given year in the company what we are interested in

is the proportions of that right so we can see that the whole lot of people like 80% more or less of people are millennials so Gen Y right the blue then on the right we have a little bit of gen Z that is entering our Workforce on the left we have and again 10% of Gen X we don't really have any people that are over 60 in

this company and the bottom example is actually from Netherlands and this is kind of like a software house but more like a consulting company and we can see it's a bit different so Millennials maybe rather 70% than 80% and we have twice as much AES right on the left the orange one we have a lot of AES and we even have some baby boomers that are in

red on the very left side right a little bit less geny probably the reasons are defa first because it's more consult profile so they rather hire more senior people in general more experienced and also the industry the IT industry in general in Netherland started a bit earlier than in Eastern and Central Europe right so there's more people in 40s 50s 60s that started as a programmers or

or tech people so those are those differences right so Millennials are the the the biggest part of IT industry currently we can say that for sure so what about those myths and facts about this conflict right are those generational differences real or not right if you Google for differences and you we get a lot of Articles videos about how to deal with Boomers how to deal with

Millennials or the ideas but if you Google for whether they are myths right if you just add the word myth to your search then you will get again out of Articles saying that it's all it's not true it's right is discrimination we are all different Etc and you cannot right uh you cannot stereotype and just you know close people in buckets right so the question now is

which is true right as usually if you ask people in it works on my machine and also it depends so we look into those dependencies a little bit in our first part so if you if you look at some press releases during class 50 years us there was some articles about difficult coor workers were in their 20s right 50 years ago it was about Boomers Boomers is

this difficult Young Generation that don't have any ideal and you know don't know how to live right then after some 15 years or so it was all about Gen X then when I was starting my my work I'm by the way I'm 18 1983 so I'm 40 almost 41 currently so Elder Millennial so when I was entering there was a lot of lot of rant about millennials

how difficult they are to work with and currently you can see a lot of articles about gen Z that hey it's a difficult generation right so this perception shifts with time if you look at the existence of conflicts generation in the scientific literature you can find a lot of examples as old as ancient Athens right so two and a half Millennia basically there was some conflict in

some City in some Century between a group that was younger and older there's material about conf see medieval times and generational backgrounds about Renaissance about you know Europe America even Africa all those basically possibilities right there's a notion of generational narcissism so we have kind of built in like our own superiority and we think that people who are younger don't know life right they are not they

don't care about Traditions Etc people who are older are Hing progress difficult to talk to them Etc and we are of course the best generation right we have Best of Both Worlds you can see some examples again about younger generation dating back 3,000 years ago basically some quotes if you look again at scientific literature you can see that usually four generations are considered on the current job

market right and usually they are divided into house are two younger generations and two older Generations right So currently this younger generation is is Gen Z Millennials and you can sometimes see the quote that Gen X is like the last adult generation the last serious generation knows what's going on right but if you look at some science from 15 years old or maybe 20 years old ago

then it shifted by one right so X's were those still young ones and inexperienced and difficult and Boomers were the last adult generation right so this per ction of how our generation behaves is Shifting in time also we change as we age right biology so those are the examples of our five the big five of personality traits so probably one of the best models of our personality

basically the we have some research that that proves that as we age basically between mostly our personality shapes up 20 years old but between 20 and 50 it's still shifts a little bit right and our conscientiousness so our like orderliness right goes up as we age we are more ordered more experienced our agreeableness so we are more diplomatic as we age usually again this is the the

usual the statistics right our openness goes down so we have our schemes our ways and we are not that open for doing stuff in a different way often our extra version goes down right so if you are 20 going for a pop Crow is a great idea but if you are 40 yeah maybe you can sleep a little bit longer or something like that okay I I

had some I heard some counter examples that after you hit the midlife crisis 40 something then again there is a bump extraversion because we are drinking a lot in PPS I'm not sure about this maybe but the general trend is extraversion is going down and neuroticism is going down so if you are highly neurotic then you are quite afraid you're thinking about all the stuff that can

hurt you and stuff like this you're emotionally unstable and statistically as we age we stabilize emotional right so Cally speaking we don't give a damn anymore about what others think about us so our neuroticism goes down and then we still have to remember that there are many factors to personality so most important factor is this individual differences right so there are some statistics about some generation that

some event had impact on them or some types of upbringing have had some impact then the most important thing is what happened to you right if there is a generation where there was a lot of divorces and it had some statistical impact on a generation it mostly matter whether your parents were divorced or not right and also our natural preferences so basically what kind of nervous system

we randomized let say at character creation we born so this is is like a half probably of our personality the other half is upbringing also we have cultural differences right so depending whether you were born in Poland Lithuania in United States Germany Japan or what have you you would have kind of a different let's say social default right you would behave a bit differently and then on

top of that we have the generational differences so St statistical differences that people in different age have a bit different personality traits so there is a lot of it to this mix so as a piece of trivia kind of fun theory that is marked like pseudo science even on Wikipedia but I decided to include it just for fun there's a theory that history repeats every 80 years

or so every four generations or so or so and every four generations there are so commonalities between them right it's mostly about American history or Broly speaking Anglo-Saxon history but the idea is that every 8 years there's a big conflict like there was the second world war then before that there was a civil war in the states and before that there was an independence war and then

for instance if you were 20 when the war started you had to go to fight right to the front and then you had to rebuild the society after that and you had to grow up quickly and then 20 or 30 years people born 20 or 30 years were burn into you know period of stability and prosperity and had they get a little bit bored they did some

Revolution stuff like this and at some point the history repeats themselves and it's just a piece of fun Theory but it's a bit controversial and I wouldn't be very hang on that the second book the authors even went further like up to 25 I believe Generations seven crisises or something like this so that just a piece of trivia what I what I wanted to to get out

of this is that the topic is tricky right there are some statistical differences between Generations but you shouldn't use them as a hammer in your people toolbox right this is a millennial Hammer this is a boomer Hammer more like a just a delicate tool to help you a little bit okay so let's move on to our particular Generations then the opening bracket we start with the silent

generation this is a generation you don't really see at work probably anymore like people 78 plus maybe some like old CEO or board member or something like this so I I won't be going into more much details on them just wanted to include them uh to be complete and also I wanted to find for each generation I want to find some people that were very influential on

our industry right so we have examples from Silent generation of people who made a lot of impact on computer science and on software industry so we start with Mr Gordon Mo who was a co-founder of Intel and author of the The Mo's law right about exponential growth of the power of semiconductors we have Margaret Hamilton who was the author of software for Apollo Mission SP spacecraft in

the 6070s we have Donald nut who is the we can say that he's the father of algorithm analysis right the author of Book art of computer programming that he's writing from like end of 60s I believe and still working on that we have Barbara lisov if you know this often asked on the on job interview about the solid principle so there's a Lis of substitution principle and

that's coming from Barbara lisov she did a lot of research in early computer science we have Alan K who was the author of small talk Small Talk language and also Pioneer of graphical user interfaces we have Brian KGAN and Ken Thompson known from the first C programming book I believe Ken Thompson was they were both working on the Unix and also Ken Thompson is auor of the

go and we have Larry Alison who is co-founder of the Oracle Corporation so those are our examples of influential people the silent generation let's move to Baby Boomers and we have a little bit more details here right so baby boomers born just after the second world war currently their 60s basically and 70s you can call them the analog Generations so basically when they were young when they

were starting to work the world was analog you were using pen and paper to do do stuff right computers came later after that in common use so they had to switch at some point to using that I have some influences so what were happening in the world what was happening there was a cold war right so basically there was a fear that it will go hot and

will be an annihilated by the nuclear blast at some point we had a massive changes in transportation so basically in 60 years we went from this funny wooden airplanes that could jump a few meters into go into space basically the dominant media was radio and TV maybe TV more in United States and Western Europe probably in Poland more like radio at this time the business was analog

right so we have a typewriter here this the the picture from Poland from waro 50s there was the building of of the Palace of art of science so basically communism is rising in Eastern Europe unfortunately if you ask Americans about important stuff probably assassination of JFK might come up computers are basically you know those things used by scientists mostly not really business like common business okay so

now what to do with baby boomers then so Baby Boomers in general like face tof face conversations they have high power distance meaning that if you have some formal title you get some respect out of the box if you're a boss if you're a doctor even right they value this structure hierarchy stability loyalty sometimes they were people who worked for like 30 years for one company for

instance they value hard skills so what you can do with your hands or with your mind is more important than you know social skills and ability to speak softly and beautifully right if you want to make them happy it's good to put them in a position of some kind of authority like a leader or Mentor so they can sure to share their life and business experience with

younger colleagues and to continue our tradition we have some people with influence over our industry so we have ban strop who was the author of C++ language we have Steve wak from Apple I have James Gosling the creator of java Bill Gates probably most well known from Microsoft good on rosom the creator of python we have team Cook currently from Apple Anders heberg the creator of C

language and Jeff Bezos the famous book seller and also virtual machines seller currently probably even more all right so let's move on to our next Generation the xers so xers 43 to 59 roughly again those numbers can differ by depending on which research you look in which country sometimes it's one two three years in a different directions so don't be religious about this the name X came

from the I say changing situation currently so Society was changing technology is changing at a very rapid Pace at those times and people didn't know what comes out from these children basically so they use ex as a metaphor of unknown we can call them a digital immigrants because they often started in more analog world but they may be in their young adulthood or a bit earlier they

transition to to computers or Electronics sometimes you can find names like lki kids it comes from the fact that it was often the case that parents stayed later at work or there was a chance that they are divorced or single parent so they had to work a lot so children had to go to an empty home with a key on the hand on their neck right hence

largely Keys sometimes the name MTV generation comes up especially in America probably and in some articles I find the name the last adult generation right okay some influences here we have picture from uh introduction of Martial law in Poland in 18 1981 if I believe correctly there's a dissolution of Soviet Union right we have some culture going from west to to East through the falling Iron Curtain

there was a disaster in Chernobyl 1986 probably we have some first personal computers maybe like not like PCS but often like commodor at Spectrum Amiga stuff like this first cell phones are Rarity so rather maybe a CEO or some some directors could could have this Fone that was like a break right and from popular Electronics we have a Walkman here so what to do with Gen X

right Gen X Gen X is by default have a bit higher autonomy statistically right because it was often the case that parent don't spend that much time on them compared to previous and the next Generations right they still value Authority rules and procedures but not as hard as Boomers they are often quite keen on their career they see themselves through the lenses of the career so they

would think about themselves as I am a programmer I am any manager maybe power or Anna or whoever and they also work hard so if you are a a team leader a manager or just a good colleague might might want to look at some you know signs for Burnout and stuff like this because might statistically happen more often with j x we have to be careful about

that all right moving to our examples so we have Michael Dell so the Dell company the producer of of computer equipment we have satiana from Microsoft we have Rasmus lder the author of PHP language we have lus tals so Linux of course and git you have John carmx of gaming industry Quake Tom Wolfenstein stuff like this Elon Musk the expert in managing the social networks currently sometimes

rockets and electric cars uh we have Larry Page from Google and we have Jack dorsy who is actually the Twitter and you can move on to our Millennials or Gen Y so the the most widespread generation in the it so aged currently 28 to 43 more or less name why is of course after X but also why from the meaning phonetically why why something is happening so

Millennials often need to know why something is happening need some explanations some reasons why we should do things not just you know can tell them to do something they will do this sometimes you can find names like 9s kids and by the way this is about being a kid in 90s not being born in the '90s right so if you're 85 or something you're still a 90s

kid basically if you are born in 1999 not really and we can call them digital natives because usually they had some access to computers from early age but not not necessarily connected to the internet right so some influences maybe not from the earliest childhood but maybe a little bit later we had this first internet the fun of dialing with a model 56k you know downloading the MP3

and hoping nobody will pick up the phone on the line because it will break like the world was changing basically the Cold War was was over so there was an expansion of European union and the NATO and 30 years of stabilization basically and unipolarity in heon of United States we have some first social networks and this is the the ggs in an example of instant messenger from

Poland that was popular 20 something years ago we have popularity of cell phones not yet the smartphones but but cell phones right if you ask about important stuff especially Americans there was the 911 by the way the 911 was like a border between Millennials and gen Z so the oldest gen Z were four at this time four years old so they won't remember if you remember 911

Millennial order General instead of wsman we have walkman's we have dism there was this crisis of 2008 and N basically it wasn't actually heartfelt in Poland my country because I think we are one of the few countries that actually managed to get with positive GDP growth but but there was a lot of problems in in Europe and United States and it was actually a time when I

was looking for my first job so it wasn't that easy but then ter National corporations okay and we have personal computers that are getting popular and quite widespread okay so how to deal with Millennials then basically Millennials are the most educated generation so far right so for instance in Poland in 1990 there was 300,000 students and just 15 years later there was 2 million and there was

no significant change of population right so a lot of people started to educate themselves more yeah is like technology in general there's this term of helicopter parents that if something wrong is going with the child the parents will know fly a helicopter and help them so because of that on average Millennials are not that autonomous as genx for instance again on average they introduced this concepts of

Life work balance in in a higher degree so Ms care about their life not only work they just use work as a mean to earn money and have life and have they have much lower power distance so if you're a boss you have to still earn some respect and just you just have it because of your title okay they're more flexible in general they are more keen

to to work in a team uh they pay attention to personal Brands they are often Freelancers because it gives them more control over their time and their work in general and they are more open to changes more direct in the approach so as a tradition we have our people that were quite in influential from the millennial generation might be a little bit difficult if it was a

quiz probably to to get it right this is why when I'm doing this presentation live I mean on site in person then then I'm doing a quiz of how many people do you recognize but it's a bit difficult if you address on the stream I would say impossible even so of those people Ryan Dal was the is the creator of of the uh I forget it the

JavaScript on the back end so no JS yeah no JS framework uh we have the zank eing who is the creator of Tik Tok the founder of Tik Tok we have Daniel EG who is the founder of Spotify Mark Zuckerberg probably the the most recognizable from here on Facebook Melanie Perkins from canvas of the designer software Patrick kison the founder of stripe payment platform we have Whit

her who is the co-founder of team and Bumble so dating apps and we have Evan spigel who is co-founder of Snapchat all right and we can move to our gen Z now so gen Z 11 to 27 so we have quite quite a lot of them in at our work currently especially if you started to work at 2022 at beginning of your studies which is becoming more

common probably current generation sometimes they are called like post millennials not very original they are snowflakes because each of them is unique right or Zoomers like a play Word on Boomers 3C so con communicate change we can also call them like online natives so when they started not only when they were born they were young not only computers were widespread but also everything was online already right

was internet influences for genz so there was a Pand mic of covid-19 of course so remote schooling remote first work we have smartphones right so everyone basically has a very powerful device in their pocket that they can give them access to whole knowledge of the world or funny videos of cuts over the internet right we have this let a globalization period that is kind of breaking right

now right we have contenders we have China we have Iran we have Russia who wants to remodel the world that was you know created after the end of Cold War we have the war in Ukraine some tensions are on the war world we don't know what will happen have some examples of popular social networks like Snapchat is no longer popular as I learned during this presentation but

I stopped at the Facebook level mostly so probably Tik Tok is the most popular although they want to ban this in the US we'll see how it goes uh we have let's say the higher environment conscientiousness in society right so so people see that now climate is changing we have to do something with that that we have the growing polarity between social groups right this is the

picture from the protest in Poland actually about abortion few years ago so basically to simplify we have this left and right basically and at this point they don't really talk to each other they don't want to right it's quite different in the past but also this is because of social media also because if you have high polarity and people are just arguing there's a lot of hate

in the internet then you know more people will click the ass and better better traffic not not a good thing in general and we have technology that is starting to resemble magic basically especially with recent Trends in AI stuff that can be done okay so what can you what can we tell about gen Z JZ are even more educated than our previous generations right they have all

the access to basically all the knowledge that they they want to get so whether you want to learn a new frontend framework or learn how to do scrambled eggs you have a tutorial on YouTube for that right globalization is a norm globalization diversity they have friends all over the world basically everyone is different everyone is individual this snowflake sometimes right as they say for instance if you

are at meter in a bank or manager director whatever and you have team of developers that don't ever see any live client like a clerk would do it doesn't make sense to force all of them to have you know this Bank logo as a background right just let them do themselves let them do whatever they want it won't change anything and they would appreciate that they care

about having a fun and chill at the workplace that it's not a s and standardized Place basically all right some greater cause is nice so we are not only working for for money but also for so some other issues like I don't know maybe let's care about ecology or some local communities or stuff like this and do something meaningful with value not only with with with earning

money right gamification Works quite well uh JZ is quite entrepreneurial generation probably the most of it because they have natively a lot of means to monetize stuff right you can produce some content for social media you can easily set up some small internet shop to for instance for instance sell some handcrafted stuff things like that they care about quick feedback this is probably again stuff from social

media where people are just commenting and posting all the time so it's not a good idea to wait like a year to give somebody feedback at work right let's do this more often maybe smaller pieces and the karch is getting even flatter right j z they don't care about formal hierarchies about titles and stuff like this they just naturally work with people around them in soft networks

and this works quite well all right so I would I was supposed to give you some examples of people that are important in had a lot of impact from gen Z but I was I was trying to find someone but we just don't know yet right there are a lot of people who have startups that are very probably are on the way to be very successive successful

but they didn't make that high imprint yet right I need to wait like five years or something probably not maybe when I do this presentation in five years I will give you some pictures here we'll see all right so this is our j z and just to finish our list of generation we have the generation Alpha we don't yet know a lot about them they are just

few years old we don't know how they would behave in the workplace in our industry right might see that they are able to install an application on the phone before they're able to tie their shoelaces for instance right so we have still few years to get ready for them how we with time okay that's not that bad maybe let's move to our act three some some miscellanous

stuff I promise you the boat right rowing the boat so here here is the boat and let's imagine we will have Crews from different generation Generations that are told to roll the boat right we have the crew the Boomer's crew is a captain captain says we are rowing and the Boomers probably will be just rowing right there's no problem there they will listen to the boss right

and we have xers right the captain goes we are rowing and the xers are asking but hey Captain where are we going what's the direction how fast should we go do we have some instrument to measure that where we are what's the target are we on it right if you if you give them the sense of control and and those targets and stuff like this they are

quite likely to get get to rowing right then we have our wise the Millennials Captain goes we rowing Millennials would be like hey Captain but there's an engine on this boat why don't we just start the engine and you know relax a little bit the captain needs to have an explanation so maybe we are in some special nature protection area like the mauran lakes for instance there

is aot of wild animals there that cannot be disturbed so basically the law says that you cannot use an engine when you when we are swimming there in a boat so we have to go either by sail or by rows right so that's okay there's an explanation reasonable reason why we can't use the engine then else can roll on the situation okay we have the Gen Z

right so Captain goes we are rowing and gen Z is hey Captain but is this island really a good Island that we are going to is the island money the only Island we should visit maybe we should also visit some other islands like you know ecology or local communities or greater calls or something like that okay so this is more or less the metaphor how different Generations

might behave okay some some statistical data how personality traits were changing over time so this is the cryon strength finder like 33 personality traits that are ranked which are most relevant we can see we don't have Z here we have the older generation the silent generation is sometimes called traditional especially in the US so what we can get from that is that the responsibility basically went down

in our younger Generations but as a tradeoff we got empathy right which is probably not a not that bad thing if you have more empathy towards other human beings right all there was some change about 50 70 years ago some change was noticed by Margaret met who was Anthropologist he was working with different types of culture basically over like hundreds of thousands of years every was simple

right we have post figurative culture from the ancestors worship so basically the older people are more wise and and know stuff and they are teaching the younger people if I was a blacksmith in medieval times my father would teach me how to live and how to be a blacksmith I would teach my son how to be a blacksmith and just going on for a 100 500 years

or a thousand but then know technology started to accelerate there were a lot of changes and basically there was a shift that happened around 60 70 years years ago when younger people started to you know know a lot of things about technology that older people didn't know right currently I have to teach my mother how to use the smartphone right sometime probably someone younger would have to

teach me how to use some newer technology so went from this post figurative cure to prefigurative cure of mysterious children yeah teaching older people and it it was not an easy change right it was kind of a disturbance in our society but we can use it to our advantage there this idea of reverse mentoring introduced like a 30 years ago so Jack Welsh from General Electric come

with idea to pair his Executives and Senior senior managers with younger people in a company and they basically were mentoring each other both ways right older were mentoring about business younger were instance mentoring about technology there was advantage to them so if you have some kind of formal mentoring PR in your companies you might want to think about this idea all right basically we have a lot

of research about diversity in teams that teams that are operating on complex in complex space of problems right that they have a lot of they need when they need a lot of autonomy like knowledge work in IT industry they are better off if we have people with different kinds of view in a team right and it also includes asan generation so if you have older people we

have a lot of experience seen a lot of stuff have this life wisdom that can be used in our software in our products and on the other hand you have young people who has this spark of creativity sometimes they don't know that something is impossible and they just did that do it right against all ODS basically so that happens so it's it's good to focus you know

on Building Bridges between Our Generations not walls right also I was talking about a lot of those know stuff about different Generations that they wanted this or that or introduce this or that but in the end it's probably if you look at this list all of us want most of it or almost all of it in some degree right would like to have some degree of stability

have the feeling that there is some leader reasonable leader there have some Independence know about our results you know not overwork ourself to death have some flexibility have some chill at work get some feedback you know be respected and maybe think about some greater cause so basically certain certain Generations introduce some items on this list but then all generations basically take advantage from that right that's the

almost the last slide it's blured on purpose so don't worry your eyesight is okay this is from the book Reinventing organizations by Frederick Lalo basically there was description of evolution of organizations like six seven stages of organizations and we can think we can look at this journey through through the generations like through the lenses of evolution of our organizations right so certain Generations give us like you

know targets at work or you know sense of control then some life work balance then maybe a better atmosphere and stuff like this and all of those Generations basically benefit from that all right so this is actually the last slide so some contact data uh this QR code leads to my LinkedIn so if you would like to join the party you know do a virtual high five

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to some questions I guess fantastic thank you po uh yeah guys if you have any questions drop them in the Q&A um first thing I got to ask is like what's the shade on gen Z no famous people snow FES I'm sorry for that I was trying really hard to be honest to find something but you know it's we we just don't know yet right because yeah

but for instance in case of Facebook I believe Mike markberg was at one billion net worth when he was 22 or 23 right so he was he was kind of like genz in current years but just not true maybe it's because the current state of tech right like you think of the evolutions things like Twitter Facebook the times these came in maybe in a few years maybe

I I think the next big step possibly you'll see some genz is figuring out how to really innovate AI further because I feel like that's the next big hurdle right um yeah probably no there was this time when you had a window to re revolutionize a lot of stuff like popularity of Internet so social platforms and lot of Millennials took advantage from that and J xers so

maybe J he was a little bit you know too late like too late to discover the America and too early to you know go to space just uh just blame your parents for not having you sooner you know um but the the interesting thought I have when you're going through this actually like my thought was what what do you think are the two hardest generations to integrate

with each other in a work environment oh that's tricky you know I'm mostly surrounded by Millennials right you sound so happy that am I well it depends you know I I had like I'm basically a manager for several teams so when I was last looking I I probably had like 17 people 70 people in total that I was working with youngest were early 20s and the oldest

were mid-50s I believe there was two person mid-50s and it kind of checks out sometimes but again this is you know statistics right like if you look at humility when people are you know talking about money for instance right so people go to you for for getting a pay rise and some say okay maybe 10% maybe 20 some just say and go and say okay 80% right

without you know not so that that happens sometimes but it's difficult to say which are the most difficult I'm not saying that JZ is the most difficult I I I guess it's like hard to gauge as well right because like in some way is you know you you're showing the um the most valuable qualities for the different Generations right and because you've got some similarities as it

Trends across the other thing you have to keep in mind is like you might see less um disengagement less conflict between you know a baby boomer and someone who's gen Z because that that baby boom is probably in a very Superior position so inherently there can't be conflict there right like usually you have people of similar age groups um at the same point on the hierarchial system

maybe maybe when you look at people who have like few years of experience and they are you know fighting to be you know to get to the mid position or senior position or something like that but I guess it depends on the company in our case we are a software house so we don't have really a lot of like internal politics or something right we have we

don't have a product we don't have like this karchy of of managers in the product or areas of product or something like that just working for different clients so maybe it's not a good opportunity for conflict or maybe you just want to work for you know a more more interesting clients sometimes hard to say I think you've just got like your employees are too polite that's the

problem here you know no uh no notebooks being thrown across the workplace no chairs being H at each other it's just it's too polite mate um we have got a question coming in from Anton they asking how would you suggest using these generational buckets in practice as opposed to the typical checks of the need of a particular group of people you're managing and how would you address

that so you know things like consisting of various personalities ages genders like how would you take these details and use the generational buckets to resolve uh issues there yeah so some of those stuff kind of checked out but you know if if we have just two people in the 50s it's it's difficult to make statistics of that but like one example is that actually I had a

guy who was in the 50s and he actually was doing a bit of overwork I had to stoping basically so maybe I had this Consciousness that this might be happening so I have to take special care whether he's not working too much right yeah sometimes when I'm talking with with j z about pay raises then you know I have to like keep the pocker face because sometimes

I'm a bit surprised like but this Al also connected with there's this phenomena dying Krueger effect so the competence and confidence right there is the search of confidence after after you are like one or two years in a field you're you feel very confident but you're not very competent yet and people have when you are like let's say young young meat or or have some experience of

as as Junior developer there is this moment when you feel that yeah you're very good now you're like n nine out of 10 in Java nine out of 10 in this technology and I should earn as much as seniors right but it goes away after a year or so and then you realize how broad the field is basically and how little you know so people are more

you know have more humility after of experience what is that saying I think it's um a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing right yeah compared to someone who's like I don't know what I'm doing the person who's like oh yeah yeah I've got like two months of experience on this and then you know all of a sudden yeah it works on my machine you know

I achine your developer yeah but you know this is more more like statistics you know going to answer the questions so I'm kind of some sometimes I use this to mentally prepare with if I don't know people right but but usually I have often I have people that kind of defy statistics the key is basically to get to know your people I guess okay and be mindful

um so I think that is all the questions we actually have right now power um but once again if people want to reach out to you there you go scan link get in contact with him um ask him about what's in the background there uh you know he had to refrain from showing me he's like it goes all the way along but you didn't want to ruin

the camera perspective yeah I can try to oh we go show you weren't kidding wow this 75 or so of Lego technique and the oldest is actually from 1977 so it's older than me damn all right so we've got distinguished collector there you go guys multiple things you can talk with him about um but po absolute pleasure to talk to you mate I think we'll let you

go now but uh really cool insights thank you thanks for having me have a nice day byebye goodbye all right guys so that brings us to a close of day number one that's right we're only one day down and we already overloaded you with that much knowledge I mean you're getting your good bang for buck here if you did miss out on any of the speeches any

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